Craps Winstar Casino
Review of WinStar World Casino and Resort Reviewed June 28, 2014 Some friends and I made the hour drive from Dallas after we learned they had finally brought craps to the Winstar. Choctaw has had it for a while but it is played with cards instead of dice so we were expecting something similar at Winstar. In terms of number of slot machines, WinStar is the largest casino in the world. That is the only attraction they have. If you want to actually play at any tables or machines, go to other states for a real casino. Casino WinStar World Casino and Resort is home to thousands of games, but craps is truly one of the most exciting! Once you learn a few tips and tricks and understand the many different ways to bet, it is sure to be your new favorite game. As you play, you’ll make wagers on the outcome of the roll or a.
So from the Blackjack table, he suggests moving on to the dice game Craps, the game with the second best odds, also nearly 50-50. The Craps table can be a bit intimidating for the beginner with.
I wonder what their roulette minimums are...
I also have seen some things that make me think if you are betting $25 or more, you don't pay the ante.
I plan to make a trip to the Casino this weekend to check it out. It is only an hours drive from my house in North Dallas.
Based on what I have seen and read from them the $1 minimum bet is the standard bet, plus you pay the $1 Ante on every come out roll.
I also have seen some things that make me think if you are betting $25 or more, you don't pay the ante.
The minimum bet is $5.
There is an ante on every come out roll. If you don’t make a come out bet, then you pay the ante when your bet goes live, such as making a place bet with no pass bet.
Once you make the ante for that hand, no further ante is required.
For example, come out roll 7 winner, 2 craps, 11 yo, 3 craps, then point of 4. That will be $5 worth of antes. It’s $1 per come out ROLL, not shooter. Once the point is established, if you’ve already paid the ante, then no further ante is required to make odds or any center/prop bets.
If you don’t make a pass bet and only a place bet, then if a pass line point winner rolls, you have to pay another ante to make your place bet go live. They collect antes like mad.
I saw lots of people betting $5 with a $1 ante.
Not true that at $25 min they waive the ante. They never waive the ante.
I only went to Winstar to see and make a TR. It’s not worth going to any of these OK casinos. Alcohol is NOT comped and overpriced. When I was there, a can of Coors light was $4.50, but it was happy hour, so $4.00.
The tables are packed. People just don’t care about the ante. I think they see it as the cost of entertainment.
Yeah I understood the Ante as being for each come out roll. It's what... 20% if you just play $5 on the PL? Not really worth it at all.
I'm not a big drinker or really a drinker at all so I could care less about the cost of alcohol, but you are gonna buy something to drink if you are sitting in the casino for several hours.
Yeah I understood the Ante as being for each come out roll. It's what... 20% if you just play $5 on the PL? Not really worth it at all.
so,bet $100 (on the pass line, sure) and that makes the 'fee' 1%
does it not?
but when one makes 30 bets per hour per come out rolls
that is $30 per hour.
must be some super math challenged players playing Craps in that part of the country
but for a fix it is inexpensive
imo, that game and fee system will be lost very soon
as it was in SoCal
Sally
One of the pits was laughing and bragging about how they can charge anything they want, including charging for alcohol, and if people don’t like it, they can drive three hours to Shreveport. They’re quite confident and arrogant. And he was making this brag to the entire table.
It wouldn’t be that bad if people were betting $100. That would add about 1% to the HE. But most people are betting in the $5-$25 range. Lots of people betting $5 pass with $10 odds. And sometimes it takes two or three come it rolls to establish a point, so that’s more antes.
In defense of the OK casinos and their craps game, that’s still a lower overall loss per hour than slots.
According to my math, it costs about $30 an hour worth of antes to play the OK craps game.
People just don’t care.
imo, that game and fee system will be lost very soon
as it was in SoCal
Sally
Well it isn't going to go away anytime soon... this ante system is a State Legislative thing that says Tribal Casinos can't make money directly from the table games.
Every dollar you lose at a table game can not be taken by the casino as profit. That money goes to: The State of OK (10%), the cost of running the game and promotions for guests.
The Ante is the only way the casino can profit. Without it... the casino is a Non-Profit Organization... technically... AND that ain't gonna happen. ;)
At casino Morongo in CA, when I was there years ago, they had a promotion where if you got 3 BJs in a row, you win a free $500 that came from the player pool that was fed by the HE.
The OK casinos have no such pool. I spoke to a pit who confirmed no such player pool. His justification was that the money won from the players is used to also pay the winning bets. I asked him what about the money won from the HE? He just shrugged his shoulders and said it stays with the casino to pay the players if the casino has a bad month.
Technically they can say that the money won from the HE is used to pay for comps. So many loopholes they can use to justify the ‘promotions for players’.
I’m the end, I think they just keep it as profit and write it off by saying they paid it out through various comped promos.
| WinStar World Casino and Resort | |
|---|---|
| Address | 777 Casino Avenue, Thackerville, OK 73459 |
| Opening date | 2003 |
| Theme | Native American |
| No. of rooms | 1395 on main casino complex (395 in Resort Tower, 500 in Pool Tower North, 500 in Pool Tower South) 100 rooms in The Inn at Winstar (offsite property) Total: 1495 |
| Total gaming space | 370,000 sq ft (34,000 m2) |
| Notable restaurants | Panda Express, Toby Keith's I Love This Bar & Grill, 'Vinos' Italian Eatery', Palladium Sports Lounge,Gran Via Buffet, Kirby's Steakhouse & Mickey Mantle's, Red River Grill, El Fenix, NYC Burgers & Dogs, IHOP Express, Matador's Pizzeria,Khan's Fire Mongolian Grill, Chips 'N Ales, Terrace View Cafe, Capisce Ristorante Italiano, Le Paris Bakery and Cafe, 'Dairy Queen', 'Orange Julius'.[1] |
| Casino type | Land-based |
| Owner | The Chickasaw Nation |
| Previous names | WinStar World Casino and Resort |
| Renovated in | 2009–current |
| Coordinates | 33°45′28.74″N97°7′55.22″W / 33.7579833°N 97.1320056°WCoordinates: 33°45′28.74″N97°7′55.22″W / 33.7579833°N 97.1320056°W |
| Website | www.winstar.com |
WinStar World Casino and Resort is an American tribal casino and hotel located in Thackerville, Oklahoma, near the Oklahoma–Texas state line. It is owned and operated by the Chickasaw Nation. The casino opened as the WinStar Casinos in 2004, and was expanded (with a 395-room hotel tower) and renamed WinStar World Casino in 2009; its 370,000 square feet (34,000 m2) of casino floor made it the world's largest casino.[2] In August 2013, WinStar Resorts completed a major expansion project, which added a new 1000-room second hotel tower that was divided into two phases; this also added a new casino that is attached to the tower. As a result of the completion of this expansion, the casino overtook Foxwoods Resort Casino to become the largest casino in the United States and one of the largest in the world based on gaming floor space. WinStar has 8,500 electronic games, a 55-table poker room, 100 total table games, Racer's off-track betting,[3] high limit room, keno, and bingo.[4]
Location and history[edit]
WinStar World Casino and Resort is located about 120 miles south from the Oklahoma City metropolitan area and one hour north of the Dallas-Fort Worth metroplex and attracts many people from the North Texas region as well as Oklahoma residents. The casino's 3,500 seat Global Event Center has been home to some popular entertainment attractions including Jay Leno, Vince Gill, Adam Lambert, Weezer, Lil Wayne, ZZ Top, Maroon 5, Kid Rock, Tony Bennett, and Davy Jones, who gave his final concert at WinStar on February 19, 2012.[5][6][7][8][9][10][11][12][13][14][15][16][17][18][19][20][21]
The casino closed temporarily between March 16 to March 31, 2020 due to the 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic as announced by Chickasaw Nation Governor Bill Anoatubby.[22] The casino was closed throughout the remainder of April 2020.[23] The casino reopened on in May 2020, with restrictive guidelines.[24]
Design[edit]
WinStar was conceived by noted designer Larry E. Seitz whose work includes Sands Casinos, Trump Taj Mahal, Grand Casinos in Mississippi, Barona Casino, Buffalo Run, Chisholm Trail, Grand Princess, SS Norway, Casino Panama, Costa Rica Casino, Stellaris Casino Aruba, and the Paradise Island Casino among others. Additionally Hotels created for the brands Hilton, Hyatt, Sheraton, Marriott, Crown Plaza, Melina, Loews, Holiday, Ramada, InterContinental, and independents worldwide. Restaurants and Clubs have been produced internationally.Special effects, commissioned art, and sculptures were constructed and implemented by Dallas-based ValueWorks and produced by their suppliers in the U.S. and around the world.The exterior of the building was detailed by Lyndon Stromberg, who also worked on The Venetian and the MGM Grand in Las Vegas as well as the Atlantis Paradise Island Resort in the Bahamas and Planet Hollywood in New York City. The long façade exterior of WinStar World Casino features replicas of London's Parliament Building, Rome's Coliseum and the Arc de Triomphe from Paris.[25]
Hotel information[edit]
WinStar World Casino and Resort is home to the 12-story, 395-room WinStar World Casino Hotel that is adjacent to the gaming floor. On August 6, 2009, the 395-room hotel tower held a grand opening celebration that featured performances by American Idol winner Kelly Clarkson and American rock band Lynyrd Skynyrd. Meeting rooms that have varied capacities of 10-200 people, a resort-style pool with a custom-built waterfall grotto, the Spa Habitat, and the Cloverleaf Boutique gift shop also opened on this date. WinStar World Casino and Resort also offers a variety of restaurants, many of which are open until late night hours, including Toby Keith's I Love This Bar & Grill.[26] The second hotel tower, the Pool Tower North, opened in August 2013, while the third hotel tower, the Pool Tower South, opened in early 2014. Both towers have a capacity of 500 rooms each and are adjacent to each other. The Inn at WinStar has 101 rooms, and is accessed from the casino and the RV park by a 24-hour shuttle service. There are around 100 table games at the WinStar World Casino. Table games include blackjack, Mississippi stud, midi baccarat, poker, ultimate Texas hold'em etc. The 19000 sq ft poker room has 55 poker tables. There is a restaurant Red River Grill inside the poker room.[27]
Offsite areas[edit]
WinStar Golf Club[edit]
Winstar World Casino Hotel Rooms
The WinStar Golf Club features two 18-hole golf courses designed by former PGA Tour Pro, D.A. Weibring which holds golf tournaments each year. In addition, the WinStar Golf Academy, a 4,850-square-foot (451 m2) facility, offers private golf lessons.[28]
Winstar Casino Facebook
WinStar RV Park[edit]
WinStar RV park is a 200-space RV Park that is available to people visiting the casino. A shuttle service to the casino is available to guests in the RV Park.
Bull riding[edit]
In 2011, the Professional Bull Riders brought their Built Ford Tough Seriesbull riding tour to the WinStar World Casino with an event at an outdoor arena constructed near the casino itself. The event was sponsored by WinStar World Casino and was held annually from 2011 to 2017 under the name 'WinStar World Casino Invitational'. The 2011 event was the first outdoor event on the BFTS since 2005.
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